Joy is not a masterpiece. The degree to which that is true is something that returning guest co-host Ryan Maffei and I differ on, but it’s definitely not a great movie. But it is a movie about something—ambition–that is always interesting to talk about. I wanted to have this chat with Ryan because he is someone of a similar bent to me. Since we were kids, I think we both thought of ourselves as people who hoped to make an above-average impact on the world. So we talk about that, and we talk about lots of other things.